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Breaking pseudo-lease

4:09 PM 08/01/2012

 

kolya

I'm pretty sure I"m in the clear here but I thought I'd ask to make sure and reassure myself.  I've been renting an apt. for the last year or so.  No formal lease signed and I paid cash upfront (mutual acquaintance agreement!).  I had planned to stay through Oct. 1 though I haven't paid the Sept. rent yet. 
There was no security deposit and I never received receipts or copies of electric bills though I requested them repeatedly.  Long story short....acquaintance decides to renovate the apt. to ask for higher rent which I can't afford so I find new place and agree to Sept. 1 start date. 
I gave my 30 day notice to current landlord who is angry because "the agreement was through Oct. 1 and I expect you to honor it".  I have no such intention but want to make sure that there can be no legal ramifications. 
Again...  I am pretty sure I'm okay since there really is no paperwork (just some e-mails) involved or deposit but you never know (:

 

 

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    js

    So the landlord wants to break his side of the lease (by asking for higher rent before the one year period is over) but then gets angry when you want to respond in kind?

    4:37 PM 08/01/2012 | 0 Votes

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    • textdoc

      I got the impression that the landlord wasn't planning on increasing the rent until the year was up, but that the OP figured he might as well get out sooner rather than later and went for a Sept. 1 move-in date at the new place rather than Oct. 1.If the landlord was trying to increase the rent while the one-year lease was still in effect, that's completely crazy.

      10:21 PM 08/01/2012

          
    • kolya

      OP here...we were doing 6 mths at a time so I'm leaving a month early.

      7:52 AM 08/02/2012

          
    • js

      Why don't you just find him a tenant for Sept. 1? It's only August 2nd so you should have plenty of time to find someone suitable. It shouldn't be a probelm given the current state of DC's rental market. That way you both win: you leave and his rental income is uninterrupted.

      9:31 AM 08/02/2012

          
    • textdoc

      I like JS's idea (finding the landlord a tenant) -- seems like that should satisfy both parties and eliminate the possibility of a court case.

      12:05 PM 08/02/2012

          
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    shawnonymous

    Shaw, DC

    I'm no legal expert but have worked with leases a bit. I wouldn't be suprised if the landlord has a case.  Even though there is no paperwork, there is still the email communication which can prove agreement and the fact that you've been paying rent could imply that you have both been acting under the assumption of a lease.  However, your rent payment is probably more than small claims will allow, so landlord would have to take you to court and that would cost both of you lawyer fees.  You could always meet somewhere in the middle if it comes to that, before court.  Just curious, does landlord have the necessary permits to rent?

    8:24 AM 08/02/2012 | 0 Votes

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    • kolya

      OP here...Probably not since she has been pretty secretive about it to the condo/homeowners group thus the whole cash and 6mths deal. I think she has other legal issues as well...probably with others who try to do business with her.

      9:43 AM 08/03/2012

          
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    johnv

    Another factor: After the first year, DC allows you to go month to month. That could be superceded by another agreement, and it's not clear how long you've been there.

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    kolya

    OP here...it only gets better.  Yes, I"ve been here now for over a year.  Landlord has thrown a fit and says unless I pay up I need to be out by noon this Monday.  And she will take whatever actions necessary. 
    I have never dealt with someone so eager to fight and make others miserable.  I offered to  leave before the 20th but now have this fear that I will come home one day and be locked out.
    Grrrrr.....nasty woman!

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    homegirl

    She will probably lock you out, which is illegal if you have paid August's rent. You need to talk to the Office of the Tenant Advocate ASAP: http://ota.dc.gov/ota/site/def...

    2:17 PM 08/03/2012 | 0 Votes

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    shawnonymous

    Shaw, DC

    So I spoke with someone that is legal counsel and deals with leases and you might have entered into an oral contract, but you could argue that your oral contract never barred you from ending the lease early. Situations like this are why most leases cover every base and aspect of renting under the sun.  With regards to your recent post, even if you haven't paid your rent I don't think you can be locked out without being evicted. it could end up being a headache for you to get your stuff, but it would be a much greater headache for the landlord.  The law mostly favors the tenant over the landlord when it comes to things like this.

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    kolya

    OP here....thanks y'all.  I'm much more relieved now and I"ve always heard that it's "easier to get rid of roaches than evict a tenant"  (:

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    kolya

    OP here...in case anyone is still following this thread.  My update is that though I haven't heard back from the "land-beast" my new place is letting me stay there for the rest of Aug. rent free!  It's a fabulous place and they are wonderfully kind and laid back.   Woodley Park here I come!!!!!!!!
    Just going to vacate by tomorrow as much as possible and let her clean up the rest....here's to karma!!!
     
     

    3:43 PM 08/05/2012 | 0 Votes

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    • kolya

      Found this on the Office of the Tenant Advocate site:Time to VacateDepending on the reason for eviction, you have different amounts of time to vacate. Violation of Lease Agreement: 30 days

      3:45 PM 08/05/2012

          

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